Unchained
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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how cry...
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How Ethereum Institutional Intends to Grow Ethereum's Market Share
Joseph Chalom lays out why Ethereum Institutional exists, how it differs from Etherealize, and why he thinks Michael Saylor is in a pickle.
How One ENS Vote Reignited the DAO Governance Debate: Uneasy Money
Nick Johnson's ENS vote sparked days of backlash. He and co-founder Alex Van de Sande join Uneasy Money to explain what actually happened.
Why Bitcoin's Lack of Yield Keeps Straining Its Treasury Companies
David Lawant, Head of Research at Anchorage Digital, breaks down why Bitcoin's lack of native yield puts constant pressure on treasury companies, and...
Why Authorities Can't Freeze Crypto Fast Enough: DEX in the City
Regulators try to freeze illicit stablecoins, but the money's usually gone before the freeze lands. The hosts on why crypto sanctions keep failing.
The Chopping Block: Visa, Mastercard & 140 Firms Take On Circle, Saylor’s Digital Credit Reset & the DAO Reckoning
The crew is joined by Selini Capital’s Jordi Alexander to break down Open USD, the no-fee stablecoin from a 140-firm consortium spanning Visa, Masterc...
How a Fake Podcast Invite Nearly Hacked Laura Shin
Laura Shin has reported on crypto scams since the early days and wrote one of the first stories on sim swaps. That did not stop a spear-phishing attem...
How the New Ethlabs Plans to Make Ethereum More Intentional in Designing ETH
Is it Ethereum or bust? Ansgar Dietrichs makes the case that only Ethereum can anchor the financial system, and admits ETH still lacks a clear value s...
A Perp Venue Asked Her to Trade Her Own Benchmark. She Said No
Carmen Li thought it was a joke when a perpetual futures marketplace asked her to become the market maker for her own index. It wasn't.
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Why CME Sued the CFTC Over the Kalshi Bitcoin Perp Approval
A regulated exchange suing its own regulator almost never happens. The hosts trace why CME did it, and why the CFTC may have better odds than crypto T...
How the Strategy Empire Breaks, and Whether Saylor Can Stop It
Vinny Lingham warned 18 months ago that Michael Saylor would harm Bitcoin more than FTX. Now he maps how the Strategy empire breaks and the one move t...
Ex-Ethereum Foundation Researchers Launched Their Own Lab: Uneasy Money
An anti-MEV activist spent weeks building 66 fake contracts to trap the sandwich bot jaredfromsubway.eth. Then jared's operators did the one thing nob...
The Chopping Block: Is Strategy the Luna for Suits?, ETH Labs Shakeup & CME vs Perps
The crew debates whether Saylor's STRC preferred shares are "Luna for suits," unpacks the ETH Labs spin-out and Ethereum Foundation layoffs, breaks do...
Are Perpetuals Swaps or Futures? The CME Picks a Fight
Three years ago, Chris Perkins sat across from Terry Duffy in Congress and made the case for perpetuals. Duffy pushed back — hard. Now Duffy's CME is...
How Digital Credit Assets like STRC and SATA Differ from Bitcoin or DAT Stocks
Was Michael Saylor wrong to sell Bitcoin? Matt Cole breaks from his fellow critics on Strategy, S&P's junk rating on MSTR, and whether the model is br...
Why Kalshi's John Wang Says Perps Are 'the Most Pure Trading Instrument'
Kalshi just brought crypto perps to the US, targeting a $90 trillion offshore market. Its Head of Crypto, John Wang, explains the bet, the risks, and...
Why Fable's Shutdown Is a Warning for Every AI Lab: Uneasy Money
The government export-controlled Anthropic's best model. Kain, Luca, and Taylor debate whether Dario talked his way into it and what the shutdown mean...
Why Pandl Calls Gold and Bitcoin Buys Here
Zach Pandl, Head of Research at Grayscale Investments, argues that speculative retail flows, not geopolitical fundamentals, drove the recent gold and...
Why AI Censorship and Reg NMS Repeal Matter for Crypto Markets: DEX in the City
The federal government pulled Anthropic's Fable 5 offline with no public process — and Jessi Brooks makes the case it's a crypto chokepoint story, not...
The Chopping Block: SpaceX IPO Mania, Fable 5 Export Controls & The AI Privacy Fight
The crew breaks down the SpaceX IPO's crypto-like low float dynamics and Hyperliquid's price prediction, debates accredited investor laws and failed t...
Unchained Celebrates 10 Years! Laura and Haseeb Cover Highs, Lows and New Directions
For the tenth anniversary of Unchained, Laura reflects on the SBF question she never asked, the Charles Hoskinson beef, and why she may be done with s...
Why Sam Enzer Says the Fable 5 Ban Should Worry Crypto
The US government issued a Friday-night export control directive against Anthropic's Fable 5, citing a jailbreak that could expose advanced cyber capa...
Why the AI Business Model Is Cracking and How Crypto Could Help Fix It
OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceXand the AI IPO cycle face a structural problem: a cheap, capable open source exit is already drawing enterprise users away be...
Claude Found a 4-Year Zcash Bug. Now It Won't Audit DeFi: Uneasy Money
Claude Fable 5 refuses security work, Kain Warwick pulls $5,000 of compute from a $200 plan, and Humanity Protocol loses its bridge, token, and treasu...
The Chopping Block: Zcash Infinite Mint Bug + AI Hackers vs Formal Verification + NEAR's Agent Vision
Mert and Illia autopsy a brutal weekend in crypto: Saylor's $3M test sale that taught him there's no sell button, the Zcash bug Claude found that coul...
How Claude Found Zcash's Counterfeiting Bug
For three years, a counterfeiting bug sat live inside Zcash's shielded pool, and no one noticed. Then Taylor Hornby pointed a custom Claude Opus 4.8 a...
Why Saylor's 'Inoculate' Comment May Be a Signal He'll Sell More Bitcoin
About 80% of STRC holders are retail investors. Glenn Cameron walks through the prospectus, how Saylor's public claims differ from the reality, and wh...
Why Mike Dudas Has Zero Exposure to ETH, but Is Bullish on Hyperliquid
Mike Dudas holds zero ETH and sees Hyperliquid as crypto's Tether moment. He also has a clear framework for what makes a token worth buying.
What Two DOJ Cases Reveal About the Legal Risks of Prediction Markets: Bits + Bips
Steve Sosnick on the ratchet effect in equities, the AI bandwidth parallel, Kevin Warsh’s impossible first week, and why crypto is the unsexy trade ri...
The Chopping Block: Ethereum's Inflection Point w/ Joe Lubin on DATs, CROPS, AI-Driven Exploits, Quantum Threats, and CFTC's Perps
Joe Lubin makes the bull case for Ethereum amid a sea of bearishness. The panel dissects Saylor selling Bitcoin for the first time in four years, the...
Is Polymarket's Oracle Problem Getting Out of Hand? - Uneasy Money
Circle froze $12M in a DeFi pool on a Friday court order, trapping users who had nothing to do with the dispute. . Polymarket couldn't resolve a Strat...
CFTC Approves True Perps and Agentic Finance Gets Real: DEX in the City
The CFTC reclassified perps as futures. Katherine and Jessi parse what the ruling actually permits and what it means for Hyperliquid. Plus: if your AI...
Why MSTR Should Have Sold $2 Billion Instead of $2 Million of Bitcoin
Jeff Dorman on why Strategy's four stakeholder classes are all losing, and why Saylor should have sold $2B of Bitcoin at once instead of $2.5M.
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Bits + Bips: How the Dimon vs. Armstrong Clash Reveals Crypto at Peak Political Power
Strategy sold BTC. Can its preferred dividend stack survive without Bitcoin growing at least 11.5% year? Plus, they cover Jamie Dimon calling Brian Ar...
Is 'All of DeFi Unsafe'? What You Need to Know About Holding Assets Onchain
A co-founder of OpenZeppelin said he’s urging friends to exit blue chip DeFi. Isaac Patka and Mike Silagadze explain what he got right, what he got wr...
Bitcoin Stalls, Stocks Soar: The Disconnect That Defines This Cycle
Steve Sosnick on the ratchet effect in equities, the AI bandwidth parallel, Kevin Warsh’s impossible first week, and why crypto is the unsexy trade ri...
The Chopping Block: Ethereum's Identity Crisis, Apostates Speak Out, and Is ETH the Microsoft of Crypto?
Ethereum's midlife crisis hits the podcast as ex-Bankless and ConsenSys insiders unpack ETH's talent exodus, identity spiral, "Microsoft" future, EF s...
Uneasy Money: Illia Polosukhin on Why Onchain Commerce Needs Confidentiality
Illia Polosukhin, founder of NEAR and co-author of 'Attention Is All You Need,' on why confidentiality will let crypto become daily commerce — plus, s...
Why Fintechs May Finally Beat Banks at Their Own Game: DEX in the City
Banks are about to lose two of their biggest advantages: custody and payments. A new White House EO opening Fed master accounts to fintechs could be t...
Is the Ethereum Foundation Too Out of Touch to Save ETH?
Vitalik finally said ETH the asset matters. Zak Cole’s reaction: ‘Should have said that five years ago.’ What broken cryptoeconomics mean for Ethereum...
Why the SEC Paused on Its Innovation Exemption for Tokenization: Bits + Bips
Citadel and SIFMA lobbied to slow tokenized equity rules. Arjun Sethi calls it 'corporate plumbing.' Chris Perkins calls it a bond future moment.